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i totally copied this lol but i think it will be a damn cool car.

New Toyota AE86 -now called FT-86 debuts (updated now)

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October 6, 2009 - 12:30 am ET

TOKYO -- Toyota Motor Corp. goes sporty at this months' Tokyo Motor Show, unveiling its vision for a sport coupe being jointly developed with Subaru.

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The Toyota-badged car, dubbed the FT-86 Concept, is the spiritual successor to the AE86 sport coupe of the 1980s, which was based on the Corolla. Like its boxy predecessor, the FT-86 Concept is compact, lightweight and has a low center of gravity.

But the styling is modernized with a rounded, sleek silhouette.

The FT-86 is Toyota's concept for a sporty coupe being undertaken with Fuji Heavy Industries Inc., the company that manufactures Subaru vehicles. While it is fitted with a 2.0-liter boxer engine from Subaru, the overall design was created by Toyota's ED2 styling studio in France. Even the blue-red metallic paint was specially developed by Toyota.

“Sports cars have to be red, but we wanted a new red,” said chief engineer Tetsuya Tada. “So we came up with shoujyouhi red, the traditional red color of a Japanese monkey's [backside].”

Toyota and Fuji Heavy plan to start producing a sporty car in late 2011.

Toyota will be responsible for most of the engineering. Fuji Heavy will supply the horizontally opposed engine and manufacture the car at a Subaru plant.
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The FT-86 seats four and has a front-engine, rear-drive layout. The boxer engine allows for a lower hood and gives the car a lower center of gravity.
     

Fuji Heavy won't comment on whether the FT-86 Concept is that car or not; Subaru won't be displaying a sports car at the Oct. 24-Nov. 4 Tokyo Motor Show. But the car clearly underscores new President Akio Toyoda's push for more muscular, fun-to-drive models.

Tada said Toyota wants the FT-86's sticker price to be in the $20,000 range. “It won't sell if it's over 3 million yen ($30,000),” he said. “The price has to appeal to regular customers.”

The car seats four and has a front-engine, rear-drive layout. The boxer engine allows for a lower hood and gives the FT-86 a lower center of gravity. Key to the design was maximizing fuel efficiency by reducing weight and creating a compact design, Tada said.

Tada also said it gets a dedicated chassis, noting that “enthusiasts don't want a shared platform.”

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Reply #1 - 01/18/10 at 21:12:46
 
Yes it is very awesome! I thought I posted something about this a couple months ago but I can't find it. It was probably in the shoutbox...

I think it looks an awful lot like the Nissan 370z with a super-aggressive front end.

Do you think there's any Supra styling in there?
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meh not really. and i wouldnt expect it to. it seems more aimed at the genesis and 370's ect i cant say that i am a fan of there motor choice  Undecided i like the idea of the lower center of gravity but it being a subaru built kinda makes it a mutt. nothing against the motor its self just why not keep it all toyota ?
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fuji made the engine in my snowmobile  Cool
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Reply #4 - 01/18/10 at 21:54:26
 
ChrisNelson wrote on 01/18/10 at 21:12:46:
Yes it is very awesome! I thought I posted something about this a couple months ago but I can't find it. It was probably in the shoutbox...

I think it looks an awful lot like the Nissan 370z with a super-aggressive front end.

Do you think there's any Supra styling in there?




Exactly what I thought when I was looking at it. There definitely was a poster of a 350/370 on the wall in the design room.
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grandporschegt wrote on 01/18/10 at 21:17:25:
i cant say that i am a fan of there motor choice  Undecided i like the idea of the lower center of gravity but it being a subaru built kinda makes it a mutt. nothing against the motor its self just why not keep it all toyota ?

Seriously, if your opinion is based only on the fact that its mixing brands ok (maybe). But if it is because it is a subbie boxer engine think twice.  I would put that engine into just about any car on the planet for its compact, lightweight, and torque making ability.  It would have to be a turbo (which isnt stated here) and change the placement of the turbo to get it a little farther away from the #4 cylinder.  There is a reason this engine wins awards for best in its class and why Porsche puts them in their cars and wins awards as well.
Also as far as mixing companies nobody seemed to mind when the EVO lent its motor to the turbo Genesis.  Besides Toyota only ever made one decent engine ever and it was in the supra.  And that is way too heavy to put in a lightweight car such as the 86.
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Reply #7 - 01/19/10 at 08:48:02
 
From about the windshield back the car look a lot like the R35 GTR to me.
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Mwolf83 wrote on 01/19/10 at 03:44:25:
grandporschegt wrote on 01/18/10 at 21:17:25:
i cant say that i am a fan of there motor choice  Undecided i like the idea of the lower center of gravity but it being a subaru built kinda makes it a mutt. nothing against the motor its self just why not keep it all toyota ?

Seriously, if your opinion is based only on the fact that its mixing brands ok (maybe). But if it is because it is a subbie boxer engine think twice.  I would put that engine into just about any car on the planet for its compact, lightweight, and torque making ability.  It would have to be a turbo (which isnt stated here) and change the placement of the turbo to get it a little farther away from the #4 cylinder.  There is a reason this engine wins awards for best in its class and why Porsche puts them in their cars and wins awards as well.
Also as far as mixing companies nobody seemed to mind when the EVO lent its motor to the turbo Genesis.  Besides Toyota only ever made one decent engine ever and it was in the supra.  And that is way too heavy to put in a lightweight car such as the 86.

and as far as the genesis i can understand them doing it hyundai isnt exactly know for cranking out reliable performance motors, they need the help. toyota however has a history of racing pedigree i am sure if they would have put the time and effort into producing a motor that would fit this application they could have. i just would have liked to see toyota crank out another amazing motor. I just think this would have been a great opportunity to do so. but none the less the boxer motor will be awesome i am sure.
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From what I understand, the new president of Toyota is trying to reinvent the brand in a way by introducing this aggressive sports car. For them to introduce another awesome sport motor also would be cool, but I guess that's too much to handle.
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grandporschegt wrote on 01/19/10 at 09:08:21:
Mwolf83 wrote on 01/19/10 at 03:44:25:
grandporschegt wrote on 01/18/10 at 21:17:25:
i cant say that i am a fan of there motor choice  Undecided i like the idea of the lower center of gravity but it being a subaru built kinda makes it a mutt. nothing against the motor its self just why not keep it all toyota ?

Seriously, if your opinion is based only on the fact that its mixing brands ok (maybe). But if it is because it is a subbie boxer engine think twice.  I would put that engine into just about any car on the planet for its compact, lightweight, and torque making ability.  It would have to be a turbo (which isnt stated here) and change the placement of the turbo to get it a little farther away from the #4 cylinder.  There is a reason this engine wins awards for best in its class and why Porsche puts them in their cars and wins awards as well.
Also as far as mixing companies nobody seemed to mind when the EVO lent its motor to the turbo Genesis.  Besides Toyota only ever made one decent engine ever and it was in the supra.  And that is way too heavy to put in a lightweight car such as the 86.

and as far as the genesis i can understand them doing it hyundai isnt exactly know for cranking out reliable performance motors, they need the help. toyota however has a history of racing pedigree i am sure if they would have put the time and effort into producing a motor that would fit this application they could have. i just would have liked to see toyota crank out another amazing motor. I just think this would have been a great opportunity to do so. but none the less the boxer motor will be awesome i am sure.


I agree.

Toyota is better then Subaru and the FT86 should have a Toyota motor.
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What is "light weight" these days?  3500?
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